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tinfoil.music Exclusive:Listening to the MPAA, people using Kazaa and other file-sharing networks are causing the downfall of the movie industry, killing kittens and making the baby Jesus cry. After interviewing one of the California Jane Does recently targeted by the MPAA, we have to suggest otherwise. Hit Read More for the rest of the story & our interview.

The MPAA has played things a little cooler than the RIAA with regards to file sharing. Well, the MPAA lawyers haven't been as active attacking those sharing files. Perhaps it is because that, unlike MP3s, full movies are just huge files and not as easily downloaded and shared. Perhaps it is because the quality of the files, especially screeners, are horrible. Or maybe it is because the movie houses aren’t as willing to finance lawsuits against the very people that pay their bills as the record companies. At least, that used to be the case. Recently, the MPAA opened the gates to release the hounds. Or the bees. Or the hounds with bees in their mouth and when they bark they shoot bees at you.

Typically, we here at tinfoil.music limit our coverage to things musical, but a woman, let's call her Jane, contacted us asking for help. Now, we're not lawyers, thankfully, but we aren't useless. After giving Jane contact information for some law-talking types, links to valuable resources and an ear to hear her story, we decided that it needs to be heard by others.

Jane isn't a pirate. That much is obvious. Jane is a consumer, a connisuer of B-movies in the horror genre. Who can blame her? Jane is also an ex-Marine, proudly serving her country in Desert Storm and Somalia. She's no longer a marine, and spends considerable time raising money to help families with adoptions services and counceling. Her only income now is her veteran's compensation. It keeps her in her appartment, keeps food on the table, but it doesn't offer a lot of money for luxury items like the horror movies that she so enjoys. So she chooses carefully, sometimes by borrowing movies from friends and sometimes by downloading bits from P2P networks.

Well, she got popped.

Jane has forwarded me the documents that the MPAA lawyers had sent her. When she first received the papers, she thought it was a joke. She had a couple snippets of poor quality screeners that weren't anywhere close to DVD quality. Hell, they weren't even VHS quality. They also advertised the website for the distributor of the file, which is still in operation. Has the MPAA gone after them for making the file in the first place? Unfortunatly, she ignored it, hoping it would go away.

She has since learned that some lawyers employed by the entertainment industry won't go away without an excorcism, and even then they may leave stains in the carpet.

It was after the second and more threatening contact a couple months later that she started to get concerned. As it turns out, there aren't many people willing to help someone the entertainment industry has branded a pirate. Even if they are innocent, how can you fight their billions? She finally was able to contact someone representing the MPAA who offered to settle this for USD$4,000. She talked with some lawyers about representing her and at minimum they would charge her USD$1,000 for *trying* to negotiate a better settlement for her, but there was no promises there. It would be a *minimum* of USD$5,000 to even start taking it to court. Clearly, the settlement fee is cleverly engineered to be just under the cost of trying to take it to the courts, where the questionable, by my eyes, evidence may be turned out as so much garbage by the judge.

With the help of Jon over at p2pnet.net, we've put together some questions for Jane.

TMusic – Tell us a little about yourself. (kids, married, other info that is not personally identifiable)

I am a 36 year old female in California recently married. I live in a mostly retired community so I spend time assisting others in the complex. I also volunteer time for a local charity that raises money to help families with adoption services and counseling. I help with getting information out to members and make blankets to give to the children. I enjoy sewing making handmade teddy bears, computers and gardening for hobbies. I enjoy being creative and helping others. My source of income is from my veteran’s compensation. I served in the Marine Corps 90-94 deployed to Saudi Arabia (Desert Storm) and Somalia (Restore Hope).

TMusic – Do you consider yourself computer literate? (explain a little about your computer background, hobby? Professional?)

I just use computers as a hobby, doing miscellaneous projects for people; business cards and stuff like that on my pc. I also prepare income taxes each year for a few people, and do simple computer repair for friends and family or installation and diagnosis of simple issues.

TMusic – What P2P client were you using at the time?

I used Kazaa-Lite, the 100% safe, 100% legal, and 100% fun (until the MPAA sues Me) program.

TMusic – What steps (in any) did you take to ensure that you were safe from prosecution?

I usually disable file sharing but obviously it slipped my mind on this occasion.

TMusic – Did you know that sharing copyrighted files is illegal?

I thought only if I was reselling them or if I was the one originally putting out the movie

TMusic – How many files do they accuse you of sharing?

I am being accused of downloading 2 movies
Which if being downloaded off of Kazaa would have to be four files [The movies were split into two files each – Tin]

TMusic – How do you think the MPAA caught you?

Sitting on Kazza for endless boring hours looking for specific files

TMusic – When did the MPAA lawyers originally contact you?

I originally received a subpoena from My ISP being named in the Doe Lawsuits in Dec. 2004

TMusic – What did you do at the time of the original contact?

First of All I never received any messages or warnings I was served by my ISP named as Jane Doe. I thought it was a joke. I just put it aside.

TMusic – What are the options presented to you by the MPAA?

They said they would settle for $4,000 or that they would consider a counter offer. I offered the price of admission to two movies needless to say they didn’t accept.

TMusic – You have been accused of sharing only two movies. Do you consider yourself to be a “pirate”?

NO not as the MPAA is implying

These are the list of [what the Doe's out of California were busted with]. This is what is being called a PIRARTES!!!!!

  • Doe 1 Troy & Spider Man 2
  • Doe 2 Napoleon Dynamite & Resident Evil
  • Doe 3 Suspect Zero & Butterfly Effect
  • Doe 4 Harry Potter and the Prisoner Azkaban
  • Doe 5 Napoleon Dynamite
  • Doe 6 Napoleon Dynamite
  • Doe 7 White Chicks & Spider Man 2
  • Doe 8 Taxi
  • Doe 9 Alien Vs Predator & Hellboy
  • Doe 10 The Manchurian Candidate
  • Doe 11 Harry Potter and the Prisoner Azkaban
  • Doe 12 Suspect Zero

TMusic – Has your ISP, SBC Global, been of any help to you whatsoever?

Yes, they provided information to a site called subpoena defense alliance, which had some helpful links.


TMusic – What resources have you used online in an effort to learn more of the charges brought against you?


Tinfoil.music
P2Pnet.net
Downhillbattle.org
www.chillingeffects.org
EFF
AzOz
Anti-RIAA Central
www.Death2RIAA.com (down)
Afterdawn.com
dmusic.com
boycott-riaa.com


TMusic – Have you contacted any lawyers to represent you? What has been their response so far?

I posted on legal match and haven’t yet received a response.
I contacted a local lawyer who said he wanted $100.00 for a half an hour just to even look at the paper work.
I then contacted Ira Rothken said he handles bigger cases, gave me some resources said if I had no luck contact him again.
Kronenberger & Associates said I would be better off to settle to save cost
This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it requested to join the peer to peer defense fund twice NO RESPONSE
This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it . gave me referral somewhere else.


TMusic – Where/when did she first learn about file-sharing?

Probably about 2 years ago when I first got my pc just from friends in town talking about watching music videos.


TMusic – Do any of your friends do it?

Yes, but just for there personal listening or viewing.


TMusic – What do your family/friends think about you becoming a victim?

My family thinks if there is trouble I will manage to find it ha!
Out of 12 in California I manage to be one. They don’t understand
Why they are bothering with me though about 2 movies.


TMusic – Have you heard about the other women prosecuted?

I had heard a little regarding the RICO violation, I researched a little of each of the names thank you for the info.
Last minute note: Mrs. Andersen saw my posting on yahoo the same one you saw and responded back to me offering some helpful advice.


TMusic – What do you think about their stances?

I agree with Santangelo, that I to wish to try and stand up for the little guy as I wrote in the earlier questionnaire why are they not going after tmd moviez.com (I know they will not be very happy with me after reading this) If they are not then they can come and help me with me legal costs. As far as Andersen states I too felt like I was being bullied early in the lawsuit I keep getting tons of court paperwork at my door and in the mail and it is intimidating I have no clue what it means and just panic. But I don’t wish to settle The MPAA’s reason for the lawsuit doesn’t make sense if they are going after the little person like me. What really is the reason. Even if all the California doe’s settle that wont cover the cost of even the court paperwork.


TMusic – Do you believe the studios are suffering from hard times because of file sharers?

DEFINITELY NOT !!!!! just look at the box office sales of these movies. More money and time is being waysted by the MPAA for big time lawyers to hassle us little guy then the money the fileshares have supposedly cost the movie industry. These are all things ive researched as far as the number of does and the number of files they downloaded are on the average of 2 per doe.


TMusic – What would you say to other people who are sharing files, or are thinking about it?

BIG BROTHER IS WATHCING !!!!
I tell them go to the the local video store and get the movie better quality and less hassle.


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